Power consumption in bulk crafting

[Tassel90]

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Hi there,

Is my first time typing. I cant understand why energy condumption does not go down when producing items that are shorten in time by bulk crafting. There are multiple examples of this issue, but whenever you cook or you do chemistry and you bulk craft you can shorten times, but it does not make sense to keep using same power. For instance whenever you craft one item you need tocusually heat the resource, but whencbulk crafting you are suposed to hot things in bulk. It pribably would be more accurate to give a state to the machine, the pan or whatever u use as very cold, cold, - , hot, very hot, extremeñy hot ... But even if that is quite hard, don't you think buñl crafting should reduce energy consumption?

Solution you would like.

The better realistic way of solving even though it could carry work in mu opinion would be to adress a separated bulk crafting energy cost reduction modifier. It would only apply when bulk crafting. It makes a lot of sense for example when cooking fries, that once the oil is hested up, you do not only spend less time, you do also spend much less energy. Or when crafting any chemistry craftable that needs to be heated up, it will cost less energy to produce aditional units of that same product.

Although all this is tru, it is also true that usually heating up a bigger liquid pool costs more energy it is not a linear increase, it is usually more efficient, unles you try to heat with a unproper size heat source (i am sorry i can't properly explain myself, as it is not my mother language, but i thini i did explain my point.

Describe alternatives you have considered.

The easiest solution I see is to reduce energy consumption by bulk timer reduction. It makes mucho more sense in many cases. In the case of the water it us tru it takes a lot longernto heat, but in the case of many other liquids, it does not take so long.

Or

The real deal, would be to be able to give a temperature state to state to every item, pans, ovens, oil, water, metanol ... And given that state to modify the energy required to craft any recipe. I kbow this is the imposible way, even tough it is the more realistic.

Additional context

It is already known that in any intensive heat needing industry that maintaining the heat is a priority due to the huge cost of reheatikg everything. For example in crystal shaping companies the oven is usually not shut off for many years, as heating it to such big temperatures would be too expensive (appart from not being good for any naterial to be heated and cold)

[PatrikLundell]

Yes, it would make sense to track additional parameters in bulk crafting, but currently it's done for time only. It's far from trivial, though, as the time saving may have a different ratio than the energy saving in a bulk scenario.

[Tassel90]

Hi there, Yea i suppose it can´t be easy, my knowledge about programming is quite low, yet i think, could it be at least at the beggining until anyone wanna focus in it, the energy consumption could be reduced in half the time reduction. So lets say you lower 80% craft time 5+, so it could be that about energy it is like 40% energy reduction on 5+, or always 25% after the first one. At least when u want to cook, or do chemistry, i mean whenever i wanna do some intensive tasks, such as dehydrating food whith a food dehydrator or make lye powder in many of those u use from 5k to 15k power on each craft, if u do a full batch the energy consumption goes from 250k to 750k i do not know but when heating something it makes no sense to keep using so much power, without counting that usually you won´t do many of this task 1 by 1. I agree that this topic could be as detailed as anyone wants. If you are using a bigger pot instead of a smaller one, you could heat more items or gallons of a liquid at the same time, saving more energy, although you would need more energy for the first item.

Other way could be in any heat related recipe bulk crafting increases 5-10% the first craft for each batch u craft, but then after the first one you save 30-50% on the rest of the batches, i mean, even as a temporary solution. I do see that some recipes, may have sense to spend so much energy when crafting one unit, but when bulk crafting lye powder u can use 750k energy, that is 15 hole big car batteries each of 50k, in one batch production. All of this to get 50 lye powder. Moreover u spend all this energy in 8-10 hours. It is a little bit silly.

Anyway thanks for your answer.

[PatrikLundell]

I don't think the lead designers are interested in a solution that uses a relation between time and energy, because they're often not correlated.
They have mentioned a desire in the past to make crafting consist of steps that are then using tools and other resources, including passive time one (think dough rising, eggs boiling, and the like). Each such step would have its own batching properties. I don't think any serious work has been put in on that front, though.

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