Uncompressed Audio #3654

dingodoppelt · 2026-04-17T21:44:00Z

dingodoppelt
Apr 17, 2026
Maintainer

Hi there!
I opened a PR #3653 with a simple implementation of uncompressed audio in Jamulus.
~~I haven't tested it very much, except with a single user on a server.~~
I tested it in a session with mixed clients on a rawaudio server. I was using rawaudio while the other clients were on the official releases. Everything worked as expected and it is still possible to switch between audio quality settings without issues.
The client is backwards compatible. ~~in a sense that you can connect to stock servers, but do not use this setting on an Opus-only server or it will hurt your ears.~~ There is no issue connecting stock clients to rawaudio servers.
This is just a proof-of-concept but works as far as I can tell. Looking forward to some feedback.
cheers, nils

P.S.:
You can download the most recent experimental builds from the actions section of this repo:
https://github.com/jamulussoftware/jamulus/actions/workflows/autobuild.yml?query=actor%3Adingodoppelt
Please keep your clients and servers up to date and make sure to grab the builds from rawaudio-dev only

rdica · 2026-04-20T19:09:17Z

rdica
Apr 20, 2026

I have stood up three servers in North America under anygenre1 and anygenre2 called Rick's Raw Audio for anyone that wants to test.

2 replies

dingodoppelt Apr 20, 2026
Maintainer Author

Since the client does a version check with the server it expects a certain version (3.11.1) for which I created another branch (autobuild-rawaudio) where I changed the version for the server. You need those server builds for the client being able to send raw audio.

rdica Apr 20, 2026

Ahhhh ok, that explains why my server builds on autobuild-rawaudio can successfully register, but builds on rawaudio-dev cannot, thanks @dingodoppelt!

dingodoppelt · 2026-04-22T10:00:12Z

dingodoppelt
Apr 22, 2026
Maintainer Author

We do have a working build now for everybody to test.
You can grab the autobuilds from github here
To see which servers are providing the rawaudio feature you can use the Jamulus explorer and check if the version is "3.11.1rawaudio" or visit JamulusJams.com. The client will only upgrade your audio quality if the server supports it, otherwise will fall back to opus.
Our first tests were very successful. The sound is pristine, the mix very transparent and clear and completely noise free, especially for low, high and very soft frequencies which still cause noise even on high quality setting with opus. The "bubbles" you were hearing on packet loss with opus sound like regular buffer underruns now. More like "crackles" instead of "bubbles". Overall we're very pleased with how this is working now and so we invite you to test with us to find more bugs while enjoying the great sound :)

0 replies

dingodoppelt · 2026-04-22T11:31:39Z

dingodoppelt
Apr 22, 2026
Maintainer Author

You can listen to a stream from a raw audio enabled server to get an idea of how it sounds @ Andre's UK Sound (if somebody is online and is using a raw audio enabled client)

0 replies

iamthechrisb · 2026-04-22T19:45:23Z

iamthechrisb
Apr 22, 2026

I wished and wished for pcm and saw your note over the weekend :-) Nice work Nils, this is huge. Excellent work! I have a server deployed to jam on with friends and looking at one out in public. With this, have you given any thought into enabling to run a server in uncompressed 'max' mode only? It would be nice to have this ability so we really know everyone on a session is using raw.
Thank you so much for doing this!

2 replies

dingodoppelt Apr 22, 2026
Maintainer Author

Thanks @iamthechrisb for your kind reply and for making the client available to testers :)
I'm very pleased with the state of the client right now and hope not to see any show stopping bugs once more people test the client.

With this, have you given any thought into enabling to run a server in uncompressed 'max' mode only? It would be nice to have this ability so we really know everyone on a session is using raw.

This is not in scope for my changes. I just wanted to add pcm audio quality to Jamulus. If you wanted to you could take my codebase and add a line to the server that simply mutes all incoming audio that is not raw pcm. But that would turn Jamulus on its head if you deployed such a server in public and make it "spiritually" incompatible with Jamulus, if that makes any sense.

dingodoppelt Apr 22, 2026
Maintainer Author

I know someone on jamulus with the worst internet connection imaginable but still available here in germany. This feature is not for him, even though the highest network data rates to expect won't exceed 2004kbps on stereo max quality so the fact that you can join all servers with mixed clients is kind of "the feature" here

rdica · 2026-04-23T04:58:20Z

rdica
Apr 23, 2026

I've updated https://jamulusjams.com to highlight active enabled servers to make it easier for players to locate one.

10 replies

dingodoppelt Apr 24, 2026
Maintainer Author

Thanks, I've updated the site to also look for 3.11.1.

Wow! That page turned pretty green 🍀
Thanks a million, very nice to see people so interested

rdica Apr 24, 2026

Yes it says VERSION = 3.11.1dev I used a fresh clone to build with.

rdica Apr 24, 2026

I'm running git clone -b autobuild-rawaudio https://github.com/dingodoppelt/jamulus.git && cd jamulus && qmake "CONFIG+=noupcasename headless serveronly" Jamulus.pro && make clean && make

qmake shows:

Info: creating stash file /home/ardy/src/test-rawaudio/jamulus/.qmake.stash
Project MESSAGE: The target name is jamulus instead of Jamulus.
Project MESSAGE: building version "3.11.1dev-a9549332-dirty:1777025737" (intermediate in git repository)
Project MESSAGE: Headless mode activated.
Project MESSAGE: Restricting build to server-only due to CONFIG+=serveronly.
Project MESSAGE: server only, skipping client rpc
Project MESSAGE: The target name is jamulus instead of Jamulus.
Project MESSAGE: building version "3.11.1dev-a9549332-dirty:1777025737" (intermediate in git repository)
Project MESSAGE: Headless mode activated.
Project MESSAGE: Restricting build to server-only due to CONFIG+=serveronly.
Project MESSAGE: server only, skipping client rpc
Project MESSAGE: The target name is jamulus instead of Jamulus.
Project MESSAGE: building version "3.11.1dev-a9549332-dirty:1777025737" (intermediate in git repository)
Project MESSAGE: Headless mode activated.
Project MESSAGE: Restricting build to server-only due to CONFIG+=serveronly.
Project MESSAGE: server only, skipping client rpc

Compile succeeds but when I attempt to start it using anygenre2 directory, registration fails. Also seeing a different version string in the log output than what other servers show for that branch:

Using server info: name = "Test", city = "Test", country/region = "us" (United States)
Recording state not initialised
 *** Jamulus, Version 3.11.1dev-a9549332-dirty

 *** Internet Jam Session Software
 *** Released under the GNU General Public License version 2 or later (GPLv2)
 *** <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html>
 *** 
 *** This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under
 *** the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software
 *** Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
 *** There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
 *** 
 *** This app uses the following libraries, resources or code snippets:
 *** 
 *** Qt cross-platform application framework 5.15.13 (build), 5.15.13 (runtime)
 *** <https://www.qt.io>
 *** 
 *** Opus Interactive Audio Codec
 *** <https://www.opus-codec.org>
 *** 
 *** Copyright © 2005-2026 The Jamulus Development Team

resolved anygenre2.jamulus.io to a single SRV record: anygenre2.jamulus.io:22224
Server Registration Status update: Registration requested
resolved anygenre2.jamulus.io to a single SRV record: anygenre2.jamulus.io:22224
resolved anygenre2.jamulus.io to a single SRV record: anygenre2.jamulus.io:22224
resolved anygenre2.jamulus.io to a single SRV record: anygenre2.jamulus.io:22224
resolved anygenre2.jamulus.io to a single SRV record: anygenre2.jamulus.io:22224
Server Registration Status update: Registration failed

rdica Apr 24, 2026

I see whats happening. I'm applying a patch for RPC firewall thats causing dirty and I suspect the version string is then too long and rejected by directory.

dingodoppelt Apr 24, 2026
Maintainer Author

PR #3657 comes to mind

dingodoppelt · 2026-04-23T13:44:01Z

dingodoppelt
Apr 23, 2026
Maintainer Author

The current builds don't work at a buffer size of 256 samples (I don't think it sees much use, but just so everybody knows)
A future build might have raw audio disabled for that particular buffer size if no other solution can be found
fixed

0 replies

foobarth · 2026-04-23T21:06:55Z

foobarth
Apr 23, 2026

I tested the available macOS Apple Silicon build and noticed that Jamulus crashes with a memory allocation error when closing the app. Not always, but very often.

Trace


Translated Report (Full Report Below)
Process:             Jamulus [5463]

Path:                /Applications/Jamulus.app/Contents/MacOS/Jamulus

Identifier:          app.jamulussoftware.Jamulus

Version:             3.11 (3.11.1rawaudio)

Code Type:           ARM-64 (Native)

Role:                Foreground

Parent Process:      launchd [1]

Coalition:           app.jamulussoftware.Jamulus [3182]

User ID:             501
Date/Time:           2026-04-23 22:52:14.2543 +0200

Launch Time:         2026-04-23 22:52:11.1391 +0200

Hardware Model:      MacBookPro18,1

OS Version:          macOS 26.4.1 (25E253)

Release Type:        User
Crash Reporter Key:  A497E812-547C-EC16-5EF3-091E6BD87A73

Incident Identifier: D046DE4F-FF6D-460B-92DA-3A83B4F73D48
Sleep/Wake UUID:       7824C46B-39C5-4409-A088-E5977567B19B
Time Awake Since Boot: 24000 seconds

Time Since Wake:       2553 seconds
System Integrity Protection: enabled
Triggered by Thread: 0, Dispatch Queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type:    EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)

Exception Codes:   0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000181472fd4
Termination Reason:  Namespace SIGNAL, Code 5, Trace/BPT trap: 5

Terminating Process: exc handler [5463]
Application Specific Information:

BUG IN CLIENT OF LIBMALLOC: not an allocated block

Abort Cause 4394286624
Thread 0 Crashed::  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

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1   libsystem_malloc.dylib        	       0x1814516cc mfm_free + 1340

2   QtCore                        	       0x1067ae674 AppleUnifiedLogger::messageHandler(QtMsgType, QMessageLogContext const&, QString const&, QString const&) + 468

3   QtCore                        	       0x1065ba0c4 0x106594000 + 155844

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6   QtCore                        	       0x1068f90dc QMessageLogger::warning(char const*, ...) const + 88

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11  libsystem_c.dylib             	       0x1814f5c48 exit + 44

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13  dyld                          	       0x181283eb0 dyld4::LibSystemHelpersWrapper::exit(int) const + 164

14  dyld                          	       0x181283dd4 start + 7040
Thread 1::  Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.user-interactive-qos

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1   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x18160e574 mach_msg2_internal + 76

2   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x1816049c0 mach_msg_overwrite + 480

3   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x1815fbfc0 mach_msg + 24

4   CoreFoundation                	       0x1816fcd68 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160

5   CoreFoundation                	       0x1816fb654 __CFRunLoopRun + 1188

6   CoreFoundation                	       0x1817cdbe0 _CFRunLoopRunSpecificWithOptions + 532

7   Foundation                    	       0x182f44b44 -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) runMode:beforeDate:] + 212

8   AppKit                        	       0x1862f8f00 -[NSAnimation _runBlocking] + 412

9   libdispatch.dylib             	       0x181484a28 _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 32

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13  libdispatch.dylib             	       0x181497120 _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 184

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Thread 2::  Dispatch queue: PLClientLoggingAdaptivePermissionWorkQueue

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1   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x18160e574 mach_msg2_internal + 76

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3   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x1815fbfc0 mach_msg + 24

4   libdispatch.dylib             	       0x18149fc64 _dispatch_mach_send_and_wait_for_reply + 548

5   libdispatch.dylib             	       0x1814a0004 dispatch_mach_send_with_result_and_wait_for_reply + 60

6   libxpc.dylib                  	       0x181319eb0 xpc_connection_send_message_with_reply_sync + 284

7   PowerLog                      	       0x19ac7d464 -[PLClientLogger xpcSendMessageWithReply:withClientID:withKey:withPayload:] + 208

8   PowerLog                      	       0x19ac7c6b4 __68-[PLClientLogger permissionForClientID:withKey:withType:completion:]_block_invoke + 124

9   libdispatch.dylib             	       0x181484a28 _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 32

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15  libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163bec0 _pthread_wqthread + 292

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Thread 3:

0   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163bec0 _pthread_wqthread + 292

1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163ac10 start_wqthread + 8
Thread 4:
Thread 5:: com.apple.NSEventThread

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1   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x18160e574 mach_msg2_internal + 76

2   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x1816049c0 mach_msg_overwrite + 480

3   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x1815fbfc0 mach_msg + 24

4   CoreFoundation                	       0x1816fcd68 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160

5   CoreFoundation                	       0x1816fb654 __CFRunLoopRun + 1188

6   CoreFoundation                	       0x1817cdbe0 _CFRunLoopRunSpecificWithOptions + 532

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8   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163fc58 _pthread_start + 136

9   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163ac1c thread_start + 8
Thread 6:
Thread 7::  Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.user-interactive-qos

0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x1815fbc34 mach_msg2_trap + 8

1   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x18160e574 mach_msg2_internal + 76

2   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x1816049c0 mach_msg_overwrite + 480

3   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x1815fbfc0 mach_msg + 24

4   CoreFoundation                	       0x1816fcd68 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160

5   CoreFoundation                	       0x1816fb654 __CFRunLoopRun + 1188

6   CoreFoundation                	       0x1817cdbe0 _CFRunLoopRunSpecificWithOptions + 532

7   Foundation                    	       0x182f44b44 -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) runMode:beforeDate:] + 212

8   AppKit                        	       0x1862f8f00 -[NSAnimation _runBlocking] + 412

9   libdispatch.dylib             	       0x181484a28 _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 32

10  libdispatch.dylib             	       0x18149e4b0 _dispatch_client_callout + 16

11  libdispatch.dylib             	       0x1814bbd6c <deduplicated_symbol> + 28

12  libdispatch.dylib             	       0x181496adc _dispatch_root_queue_drain + 708

13  libdispatch.dylib             	       0x181497120 _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 184

14  libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163be84 _pthread_wqthread + 232

15  libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163ac10 start_wqthread + 8
Thread 8:: com.apple.CFSocket.private

0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x181606e80 __select + 8

1   CoreFoundation                	       0x181722200 __CFSocketManager + 708

2   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163fc58 _pthread_start + 136

3   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163ac1c thread_start + 8
Thread 9:: caulk.messenger.shared:17

0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x1815fbbb0 semaphore_wait_trap + 8

1   caulk                         	       0x18df78e00 caulk::semaphore::timed_wait(double) + 224

2   caulk                         	       0x18df78cac caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::run() + 32

3   caulk                         	       0x18df7894c void* caulk::thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<caulk::thread::attributes, void (caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::)(), std::__1::tuplecaulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread*>>(void) + 96

4   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163fc58 _pthread_start + 136

5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163ac1c thread_start + 8
Thread 10:: caulk.messenger.shared:high

0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x1815fbbb0 semaphore_wait_trap + 8

1   caulk                         	       0x18df78e00 caulk::semaphore::timed_wait(double) + 224

2   caulk                         	       0x18df78cac caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::run() + 32

3   caulk                         	       0x18df7894c void* caulk::thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<caulk::thread::attributes, void (caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::)(), std::__1::tuplecaulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread*>>(void) + 96

4   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163fc58 _pthread_start + 136

5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x18163ac1c thread_start + 8
Thread 11:: Thread (pooled)

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1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x181640128 _pthread_cond_wait + 980

2   QtCore                        	       0x1067cc54c 0x106594000 + 2327884

3   QtCore                        	       0x1067cc3dc QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, QDeadlineTimer) + 108

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Thread 12:: Thread (pooled)

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Thread 13:: Thread (pooled)

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Thread 14:: Thread (pooled)

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Thread 15:: Thread (pooled)

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Thread 0 crashed with ARM Thread State (64-bit):

x0: 0x0000000105eb7e20   x1: 0x0000000105eb7e20   x2: 0x0000000000000001   x3: 0x0000000000000000

x4: 0x00000007e6949e40   x5: 0x0000000000000012   x6: 0x0043000004220122   x7: 0x00000001ed4499a0

x8: 0x0000000105eb7e20   x9: 0x0000008114000000  x10: 0x0000000000000001  x11: 0x0000000105ea4000

x12: 0x000000000000009e  x13: 0x001d30e9004229ce  x14: 0x0000000000023000  x15: 0x0000000000000042

x16: 0x000000030a8f2a9c  x17: 0x0000000181468108  x18: 0x0000000000000000  x19: 0x0000000105e94000

x20: 0x00000000000013e2  x21: 0x00000001ed44c080  x22: 0x0000000105eb7e20  x23: 0x0000000106a75000

x24: 0x0000000105e940e0  x25: 0x0000000000000001  x26: 0x000000000000009f  x27: 0x000000016bcd72cc

x28: 0x0000000400000000   fp: 0x000000016bcd6fb0   lr: 0x00000001814516cc

sp: 0x000000016bcd6f40   pc: 0x0000000181472fd4 cpsr: 0x40001000

far: 0x0000000000000000  esr: 0xf2000001 (Breakpoint) brk 1
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Full Report
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openaspace May 19, 2026

@dingodoppelt tried now latest beta version, and i listen a lot of drops with jitter auto and small network buffer enabled , with the 3.11.raw was more stable..

dingodoppelt May 19, 2026
Maintainer Author

Always test with a server that you launch on your local machine. The network code is untouched and the jitter only depends on the actual network connection so to get that out of the equation always test locally. My rawaudio-dev-tests branch contains the normalization before mixing.

dcorson-ticino-com May 19, 2026
Collaborator

@dingodoppelt tried now latest beta version, and i listen a lot of drops with jitter auto and small network buffer enabled , with the 3.11.raw was more stable..

Are you sure it's not the Internet?
Our weekly chamber music group ran for 2 hours on Saturday using the new beta on Rick's Toronto server with 0 (zero) dropouts during the last hour, first hour only a couple. I always run auto jitter, minimum buffer and small buffers enabled. As an international group across the Atlantic (US, CA, SE, CH, AT) we are used to network problems, but we had an exceptionally good evening with the new beta on that server.

openaspace May 19, 2026

i flash back to jamulus-headless_3.11.1rawaudio_ubuntu_amd64.deb version and no jitter for the same server/clients

dingodoppelt May 19, 2026
Maintainer Author

i flash back to jamulus-headless_3.11.1rawaudio_ubuntu_amd64.deb version and no jitter for the same server/clients

Please repeat those tests on your local machine and make sure to have matching server and client versions as 3.11.1 doesn't work with 3.12.0 or 3.12.1 and vice versa.

rdica · 2026-04-24T23:59:36Z

rdica
Apr 24, 2026

@dingodoppelt I just had a friend install the latest jamulus-headless deb and I'm seeing a different version string than what Andre's US and my servers show:

Big Scott's Rock Bar has the deb installed, whereas mine and presumably Andre's US were compiled locally.
We tested Big Scott's server and its working fine, just that version string difference.

2 replies

dingodoppelt Apr 25, 2026
Maintainer Author

Andre's US Sound use my release branch, which has some other extra features. The raw audio downloads I provide come from my autobuild-rawaudio branch. I might just use the builds generated from the pull request next time.

foobarth Apr 26, 2026

Does Jamulus expose its capabilities (such as small network buffers and such) during handshake? That way one could more reliably tell if the server supports raw audio instead of guessing from a build number.

dingodoppelt · 2026-04-26T14:08:40Z

dingodoppelt
Apr 26, 2026
Maintainer Author

There are now 24 servers around the world supporting raw/uncompressed audio online on the public server lists. Thanks so much for your interest and testing ❤️
@serveradmins: Please keep your servers up to date and pull either from my branch rawaudio-dev or use the binaries generated by the most recent autobuild from #3653

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dcorson-ticino-com Apr 26, 2026
Collaborator

Thanks Dingo, this is great !
I tried to get this working a couple of years ago, but always had weirdness after a while and at some point gave up.
Yours appears to be working.
I will try and get all my regulars together using this next weekend and report back.
Don

dcorson-ticino-com · 2026-04-27T20:54:03Z

dcorson-ticino-com
Apr 27, 2026
Collaborator

What does a MacOS user have to do to get a test client working ?
With Win11 I have no problems, but MacOS users are asking me what to do and I have no idea about MacOS.
When trying to start they are getting a message that says it might be malware and allows them to do nothing or delete the program.
Not very useful.

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dingodoppelt Apr 28, 2026
Maintainer Author

I don't use macs maybe @foobarth can help with that.

dingodoppelt Apr 28, 2026
Maintainer Author

Before Jamulus used a signed binary for macOS this was the wiki page for installation on macOS
Don't know if it is valid today. It links to this apple support page

ann0see Apr 28, 2026
Maintainer

The apple support page should be accurate

dcorson-ticino-com Apr 29, 2026
Collaborator

The apple support page should be accurate

They are up and running now.
Thanks

dcorson-ticino-com · 2026-05-01T08:16:25Z

dcorson-ticino-com
May 1, 2026
Collaborator

One of my users says that the change to "Max" quality doesn't happen immediately, but they need to leave the server and then connect again for it "Max" to kick in.
They are on MacOS using the version at https://jamulusjams.com/clients/ and the server Rick's Raw Audio NJ.

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softins May 4, 2026
Maintainer

I'm looking at the pcap now. It looks pretty sensible. I'll make specific comments about it later.

Note that by default, the Wireshark dissector for Jamulus will only automatically dissect Jamulus protocol if one of the port numbers is between 22120 and 22139. In the pcap attached above, the port numbers are 22217 and 23000. To tell Wireshark to decode as Jamulus, I right-clicked on one of the packets, selected "Decode As...", and then in the pop-up window clicked in the "Current" column and selected "JAMULUS". That set the dissection for all packets in the same conversation.

If you want to change the default range of port numbers to be decoded as Jamulus, edit the file jamulus.lua and change the settings for port1 and port2 around lines 40 and 41:

-- a table of our default settings - these can be changed by changing
-- the preferences through the GUI or command-line; the Lua-side of that
-- preference handling is at the end of this script file
local default_settings =
{
    debug_level  = DEBUG,
    enabled      = true, -- whether this dissector is enabled or not
    port1        = 22120, -- first UDP port number for Jamulus
    port2        = 22139, -- last UDP port number for Jamulus
}

softins May 4, 2026
Maintainer

Here is what I can see from the pcap, viewing it in Wireshark with time display set to "Seconds since first captured packet":

0.00 - client requests and receives version and OS, and sends pings to server. This is evidently in the Connect Dialog, although the traffic to other servers is not captured, as only traffic to/from port 23000 is of interest.
2.63 to 60.12 - client continues to ping server while the Connect Dialog is open.
62.12 - user clicks Connect, and client starts sending audio frames at High quality without sequence numbers. This is how a client requests a connection (Jamulus doesn't have a Connect message in the protocol).
62.17 - server sends client a CLIENT_ID. Client continues sending audio.
62.21 - server sends client a CONN_CLIENTS_LIST.
62.36 - server sends REQ_NETW_TRANSPORT_PROPS asking client to send audio details.
62.36 - client sends NETW_TRANSPORT_PROPS specifying stereo high quality without sequence numbers (the client doesn't yet know the server version - it doesn't remember it from the connect dialog, which might not even have been used - so it doesn't know
whether the server supports sequence numbers (3.6 onwards) or raw audio (special 3.11.1).
62.41 - server requests jitter buffer size, and client responds by sending it.
62.45 - server requests channel infos, and client responds by sending it (country, city, instrument, name).
62.49 - now that the server knows the client identity, it sends the welcome message as CHAT_TEXT and starts sending audio to
the client, in the format requested above at 62.36.
62.55 - server sends its version and OS: Linux, 3.11.1dev
62.56 - now that the client knows from the version number that the server supports raw audio, it immediately starts sending audio in raw format (currently shown in Wireshark as "Audio Unknown"). Server doesn't yet change what it sends.
63.02 - now that client knows server supports sequence numbers, it sends NETW_TRANSPORT_PROPS specifying stereo high quality
with sequence numbers (but still not raw audio).
63.06 - server starts sending audio with sequence numbers (still Opus high quality).
63.06 - client sends NETW_TRANSPORT_PROPS specifying the packet size for raw audio with seq nums (513).
63.10 - server acks that message and starts sending raw audio with sequence numbers.

That all looks pretty normal to me.

rdica May 4, 2026

Interesting. I saw the portranges set in the various tcpdump filters, tried expanding their ranges due to the port my server runs on but never thought to look at the dissector itself, assumed it didn't use a port range. You know what they say about assumptions! Thanks for that info @softins

dingodoppelt May 4, 2026
Maintainer Author

62.55 - server sends its version and OS: Linux, 3.11.1dev

62.56 - now that the client knows from the version number that the server supports raw audio, it immediately starts sending au
dio in raw format (currently shown in Wireshark as "Audio Unknown"). Server doesn't yet change what it sends.

63.02 - now that client knows server supports sequence numbers, it sends NETW_TRANSPORT_PROPS specifying stereo high quality
with sequence numbers (but still not raw audio).

63.06 - server starts sending audio with sequence numbers (still Opus high quality).

63.06 - client sends NETW_TRANSPORT_PROPS specifying the packet size for raw audio with seq nums (513).

63.10 - server acks that message and starts sending raw audio with sequence numbers.

On my local tests the issue isn't obvious but on my VPS servers it is the same. I was thrown off by the amount of mismatched sizes exchanged between client and server until NETW_TRANS_PROPS is ACKed. Since my captures show the same behaviour that doesn't produce audible noise because of the short amount of time in which "wrong" packets are exchanged I can't see where the reported noise could be coming from. From the capture it looks like the client was muted while connecting. Did it actually produce noise?

rdica May 4, 2026

I wasn't sending any audio when I connected, and since it was a lone client on the server there was no other audio src. I didn't hear any audio or artifacts during the capture.

JacquesFreud · 2026-05-03T13:32:48Z

JacquesFreud
May 3, 2026

While you are discussing things that go way beyond my comprehension I have a question: is there any relation between the 3.11.1dev (etc) version and the newly released 3.12? In other words: can I ignore the 3.11.1 version in favor of 3.12? Or will I then be missing out on the newly improved audio features? Thanks!

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dingodoppelt May 3, 2026
Maintainer Author

The 3.11.1 versions are based on the 3.12.0 code so you get the most recent commits + the raw audio feature.
3.12.0 does not contain the raw audio feature since it is not in the official codebase.
You should be using 3.11.1 and ignore the message telling you to update because as a matter of fact you are already on the recent version.
Currently I need that particular version string since the client only activates the raw audio feature when it receives the server version "3.11.1". This might be subject to change but you'll hear about it here :)

JacquesFreud May 3, 2026

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JacquesFreud · 2026-05-03T15:23:34Z

JacquesFreud
May 3, 2026

I just compared the two versions. It looks like the 3.11.1dev gives me a lot of jitter. Both on PCM audio enabled servers and 'regular' ones. Also on quitting 3.11.1 I also get a crash message on my Macintosh.

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dingodoppelt May 3, 2026
Maintainer Author

That doesn't sound good. Can you confirm you used the latest build from the builds section?
Jitter is maybe caused by your internet connection. Can you try it locally on your machine?
For that you need to first start a server on your machine and afterwards connect your client to localhost (just put that into the connection dialog in the bottom right corner).
I've seen the public raw audio servers use very different versions and are not up to date. Please always check with a server you know the version of.
I wonder why you had issues on "normal" servers since on those my code shouldn't be run at all. Does this happen all the time or only on the first connection after launching the client or how are you able to reproduce it? I don't own macs so it'd be nice if some other mac users could try to reproduce the issue.

dcorson-ticino-com · 2026-05-03T20:10:01Z

dcorson-ticino-com
May 3, 2026
Collaborator

My chamber music group ran raw audio for about 1.5 hours Saturday with no particular problems.
Unfortunately I had to bow out at the last minute, but they said they had no more artifacts than usual (the group is in US, Canada, Sweden Switzerland and Austria so we have our fair share of network noise).
They did mention some short dropouts. Could it be that some network problems are now causing dropouts and not noise?

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dingodoppelt May 3, 2026
Maintainer Author

OPUS uses some kind of packet loss concealment strategy whereas there is none for raw audio so jamulus will simply mute the lost packets which can produce short dropouts. When this happens you'll hear crackling rather than the typical jamulus "bubbles".
To produce some artificial jitter you could do an internet connection speed test while using jamulus or join a server via wifi and switch through the audio quality settings to compare the noise to expect from raw audio and OPUS.

dcorson-ticino-com May 4, 2026
Collaborator

After some questioning I hear that the person having longer dropouts also had that with the old version, doesn't have the best connection.
So no panic there.
Also note that there are both Win and Mac users in the group so there doesn't seem to be a problem on Macs in general.

dcorson-ticino-com May 9, 2026
Collaborator

We played again this evening and had good results.
What I don't understand 'though is the difference in sound quality between different servers that use the same SW version.
We started out using Any_Genre1->Rick's Raw Audio NJ and our Canadian (Toronto) member was having dropouts so I suggested we try out Any_Genre2->Rick's Raw Audio YYZ which is in Toronto.
That didn't solve his dropout problem, but we all noticed that the sound quality was much better than on the NJ server. Not just a little better, but much better, cleaner and no background noise.
How can that be without us having changed anything in our settings?

iFriendGit · 2026-05-04T17:39:31Z

iFriendGit
May 4, 2026

Thank you for this version! Finally someone did it :)

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dingodoppelt · 2026-05-13T14:29:00Z

dingodoppelt
May 13, 2026
Maintainer Author

As some of you already know we came a step closer to merging this into mainline Jamulus.
That means that clients and servers on version 3.11.1dev won't work with the newer builds from #3653
Please update your clients and servers 🙏
We'll need to find a solution to easily see which servers support raw audio, but you'll hear about it here :)

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rdica · 2026-05-13T21:45:07Z

rdica
May 13, 2026

I have updated https://jamulusjams.com to highlight only the new 3.12.0dev based PCM servers. The hope is that server admins that use the site will notice their servers aren't highlighted and upgrade to the newer code so they will be highlighted once again.

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dingodoppelt May 15, 2026
Maintainer Author

Nice to see that all except for two servers are using the raw audio enabled 3.12.0dev 🥰
I also could see that there are still five 3.11.1 servers online and those should be updated as soon as possible.
The new clients seem to spread nicely but if you come across somebody still using the old client, please point them to the well known places for downloads of the autobuilds like https://joshdodds.com/jam or here on github in the builds section

foobarth May 15, 2026

Mine is one of the 3.11.1 as i cba to compile from source on a server. Will check the builds, thanks!

Will also put a note on the welcome message

JacquesFreud · 2026-05-16T21:20:59Z

JacquesFreud
May 16, 2026

Some Mac iOS 26.4.1 feedback: While the problem occurred with the early versions of the 'raw clients' and it disappeared with subsequent versions I now have an occasional crash report on my Macintosh with the latest version (of May 15 2026). This happens when you quit the program. It can be ignored, so there's no real problem for Mac users. But just so you know.

Also: before you can start using the client you have to tell system security to 'open anyway'. (I think this may have been mentioned.)

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rdica · 2026-05-21T00:12:18Z

rdica
May 21, 2026

@dingodoppelt Congrats on code merge...on Andres site I'm seeing package version 3.12.1dev4200d38, are these the current builds from the merge that we should be using moving forward?

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dingodoppelt May 21, 2026
Maintainer Author

Thanks :)
Those builds are based on main (just one commit missing atm) so with raw audio merged we don't need extra builds anymore. I just uploaded them for convenience and I think that'll be the last upload since everybody can now just pull the latest official main.
If you see Jamulus versions out in the wild just make sure the commit hash in the version string is one of the recent commits on main.

JacquesFreud · 2026-05-25T17:18:17Z

JacquesFreud
May 25, 2026

Something unrelated to technical considerations: After upgrading to the May 20 version we see instead of Genre 3 ‘Any Genre Asia’ servers. A good idea for Europeans, since we can’t play in Asia due to latency anyway. But there are also a bunch of nearby servers in Genre 3 that we cannot see now when we go to Genre 3 while using the Pcm/Max client version. The whole Genre 3 turns up empty. This is not what we want, do we?

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pljones May 25, 2026
Maintainer

@JacquesFreud - just to be clear, this highlights something you need to make yourself aware of when you install software without knowing anything about it. This isn't really something anyone else can take onto themselves on your behalf: main builds are under current change. Something that might be implemented this morning could have been reverted by this afternoon. Something implemented tomorrow might accidentally delete your profile due to a bug that wasn't seen before merging -- and then hopefully quickly fixed. If you pick up a version and don't check back for changes, you could get stuck with the bugs.

If you want stable builds, stick with the release versions.

If you want the latest builds, know that Github jamulussoftware/jamulus is where to come to get them -- with the risks that brings.

JacquesFreud May 25, 2026

Thanks for all the work, dudes. I just downloaded (@josh dodd) 3.12.1dev-b16ee18 and everything works fine. Maybe all these numbers don't mean a thing to you, sorry. Question: should we newbs wait till you pros are finished with this whole raw project and not interfere by downloading and trying out every new version you come up with? Another question would be (if you think we should continue experimenting): where is a reliable web address to find the latest version? Apparently jamulusjams.com was not up to date.

ann0see May 25, 2026
Maintainer

Only the GitHub releases on this platform. But you can and should report bugs. Always.

ann0see Jun 1, 2026
Maintainer

@softins If Asia.jamulus.io is still set in the DNS I suggest to remove it. We should not support outdated builds.

softins Jun 1, 2026
Maintainer

@softins If Asia.jamulus.io is still set in the DNS I suggest to remove it.

Done

corrados · 2026-05-26T19:07:31Z

corrados
May 26, 2026
Maintainer

I tested the raw feature today with my band and I had to disable it. Every time the jitter buffer LED went on red, I got crackling noise. This is because for raw audio there is no "Packet loss concealment (PLC)" as the CELT library supports, unfortunately. Maybe as a workaround we could introduce a CELT rate which is close to the 2000 kbps and test if the sound quality is near RAW. In that case we would still have the PLC feature.

9 replies

ann0see May 26, 2026
Maintainer

Also it would be good to analyze a packet capture if it's reordered packets or not.

corrados May 26, 2026
Maintainer

VDSL and I am using auto jitter buffer to get lowest possible latency. Increasing the buffers is no option for me (as a drummer).

ann0see May 26, 2026
Maintainer

VDSL is not a shared medium I believe. There's probably some signal degradation on the last mile.

I enjoy fiber over AON here and raw seemed to work fine (also with a server hosted on 1fire).

corrados May 27, 2026
Maintainer

Here would be a possible PLC algorithm with pseudo code: https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3561212.3561226
Any volunteers? ;-)

pljones May 28, 2026
Maintainer

VDSL and I am using auto jitter buffer to get lowest possible latency.

I find it gives me higher latency that is needed to avoid packet drops / jitter. That's why I turned it off. (Lately the DSL here has been pretty poor - this was before raw audio - so I've been trying various things; manual jitter buffer control trimmed a couple of ms off.)

pcar75 · 2026-06-04T15:33:14Z

pcar75
Jun 4, 2026

Bonjour,
I wish to try out the raw audio (PCM) version of Jamulus but keep my current installed version (3.11). I think using an AppImage of the PCM version would allow me to keep both versions on my Ubuntu Studio 22.04LTS. Is there an AppImage of the PCM version and how do I get and install it ?

Thanks in advance !

2 replies

dingodoppelt Jun 4, 2026
Maintainer Author

I guess you can just extract the .deb file or open it with an archiver like ark and find the Jamulus executable in the data.tar.xz archive inside the .deb file. You should be able to launch the Jamulus executable once extracted. "Installing" Jamulus on Linux usually just means copying the executable to /usr/local/bin

pcar75 Jun 7, 2026

... or to /usr/bin (found with command-line 'which' or 'whereis' )
Thanks.

openaspace · 2026-06-07T20:42:22Z

openaspace
Jun 7, 2026

dingodoppelt I have lost latest discussions... which is the latest "stable" raw version to install today?

5 replies

ann0see Jun 7, 2026
Maintainer

Install it from the main branch here.

openaspace Jun 8, 2026

Big problem, I was using a python code to API control the normal jamulus stable to start and stop recording...
I see now it doesn't work anymore

dingodoppelt Jun 8, 2026
Maintainer Author

Big problem, I was using a python code to API control the normal jamulus stable to start and stop recording... I see now it doesn't work anymore

Do you think this is caused by the raw audio code?
If yes, please explain what your suspicions are and if no, please raise an issue because this would be off-topic in this thread.

rdica Jun 8, 2026

I can stop/start recordings fine using RPC interface. and the systemctl kill -s SIGUSR2 service methods. Using version 3.12.1dev-76fc7575.

openaspace Jun 8, 2026

solved without changes installing latest version.

.. so till with latest version i listen glitch.. also i have the jamulus container on dedicted cpu core and also with core isolation at kernel level: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash isolcpus=14,15 nohz_full=14,15 rcu_nocbs=14,15"

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