doc: add minutes for July 18 2016

PR-URL: #34
Reviewed-By: Richard Chamberlain <[email protected]>

Author: mhdawson

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+# Node Post-Mortem WG Meeting Notes - July 18 2016
+
+* Recording here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIh7kQUifuU
+* Issue link: https://github.com/nodejs/post-mortem/issues/31
+
+# Present
+
+* Yunong Xiao @yunong
+* Dave Pacheco @davepacheco
+* Joshua M. Clulow @jclulow
+* Michael Dawson  @mhdawson
+* Richard Chamberlain @rnchamberlain
+
+
+# Agenda
+
+* Stand up
+* Actions from last meeting
+* Where to put code we are collaborating on
+  https://github.com/nodejs/post-mortem/issues/30
+* Javascript API to support common extensions between MDB/lldb/IDDE
+* NodeReport as module bundled into Node ?
+
+# Standup
+
+* Yunong Xiao @yunongx
+  * working on talk for post-mortem WG
+
+
+* Dave Pacheco @dapsays
+ * Met with Yunong to talk about background info for somebody working on mdb/v8
+
+
+* Joshua M. Clulow @jmclulow
+ * no time
+
+
+* Michael Dawson  @mhdawson
+  * working on talk for post-mortem WG
+  * Working with Richard on a his efforts in post-mortem,
+    mostly on the brainstorming direction side as opposed to commits
+
+
+* Richard Chamberlain @rnchamberlain
+ *  working with Howard Hellyer on NodeReport and llnode/lldb contributions
+
+
+# Actions from last meeting
+N/A
+
+# Agenda Item Disussion
+
+## Where to put code we are collaborating on
+
+https://github.com/nodejs/post-mortem/issues/30
+
+We discussed the different options. No objection to products going under
+github/nodejs and this is the first choice from the options, but this
+should be optional.  ie. only when it makes sense for
+the project and the foundation. Some projects will be under github/nodejs
+but others will be external.
+
+Just as important is making sure that people can find all the tools and
+projects that this WG is working on.  First step is to update the readme.md
+to add a section for this with additional links.  Following that we may
+want to brainstorm other ideas of how to get the message out.
+
+ACTIONS:
+  * Michael to create PR on readme.md that people will comment on to add
+    the links/projects
+  * Michael to capture consensus discussed in issue #30 and then
+    add to CTC agenda to start discussion to see if we can move
+
+
+## Javascript API to support common extensions between MDB/lldb/IDDE
+
+https://github.com/nodejs/post-mortem/issues/33
+
+* Richard did quick overview of concept.
+* Has done quick prototype.
+* David, sounds cool, but largish effort for mdb. Their path might be
+  to finish common core dump generation file format.  Then have API use
+  that file to implement API.  Other debuggers could then also implement
+  the API directly if they want to.
+  We can then collaborate on the commands using that API.
+  Nice to be able to have 2 bases to develop API one being the common format.
+* Yunong - have we finalized the common format ? not yet.
+  Is one of the things we need to close one.
+* There is an issue for the common format. Next is to prototype,
+  Dave believes he could have that for the next meeting.
+  Prototype would be command from mdb/v8 which would generate
+  common dump format.  Richard to look at generating common dump
+  format using lldb.
+
+ACTIONS:
+* David plans to have generation of common format with mdb done for
+  next meeting.
+* Richard to look at generating common format with lldb and report
+  back on that.
+* Richard to do initial cut at what API might look like.
+
+## NodeReport as module bundled into Node
+
+Michael's question is if npm for NodeReport should be part
+of the Node distribution?
+
+Mdb was at one point it was bundled with but that ended up being removed.
+
+There have been tensions over this in the past in npm,
+with the npm org wanting different consumption
+level than Node team wanted.
+
+Yunong - list off the tradeoffs on bundling or not bundling.
+
+Take back to github, discussion of pro/cons
+
+How is this different from any other modules
+
+Michael, feel that you should get at least minimal capability with
+runtime without having to install anything else.  Sometimes need
+legal reviews/ok to add something to production.
+
+Yunong, they might tend towards not bundling as they want
+to fine tune what they use.
+
+Take back to github, discussion of pro/cons
+
+ACTIONS:
+
+* Michael to open issue for discussion.
+
+## Other issues
+
+Get together at Node Summit ?  - Monday agreed.