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minor fma cleanup #57041

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This removes the redundant fma_llvm function, and makes it so systems with Float16 fma can actually use it rather than the Float32 fallback path.

This removes the redundant `fma_llvm` function, and makes it so systems with Float16 fma can actually use it rather than the Float32 fallback path.
@oscardssmith oscardssmith added performance Must go faster maths Mathematical functions float16 labels Jan 14, 2025
function fma(a::Float16, b::Float16, c::Float16)
Float16(muladd(Float32(a), Float32(b), Float32(c))) #don't use fma if the hardware doesn't have it.
@assume_effects :consistent function fma(x::T, y::T, z::T) where {T<:IEEEFloat}
Core.Intrinsics.have_fma(T) ? fma_float(x,y,z) : fma_emulated(x,y,z)
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My understanding is that Core.Intrinsics.have_fma(Float16) is always false at the moment because

static bool have_fma(Function &intr, Function &caller, const Triple &TT) JL_NOTSAFEPOINT {
auto unconditional = always_have_fma(intr, TT);
if (unconditional)
return *unconditional;
auto intr_name = intr.getName();
auto typ = intr_name.substr(strlen("julia.cpu.have_fma."));
Attribute FSAttr = caller.getFnAttribute("target-features");
StringRef FS =
FSAttr.isValid() ? FSAttr.getValueAsString() : jl_ExecutionEngine->getTargetFeatureString();
SmallVector<StringRef, 128> Features;
FS.split(Features, ',');
for (StringRef Feature : Features)
if (TT.isARM()) {
if (Feature == "+vfp4")
return typ == "f32" || typ == "f64";
else if (Feature == "+vfp4sp")
return typ == "f32";
} else if (TT.isX86()) {
if (Feature == "+fma" || Feature == "+fma4")
return typ == "f32" || typ == "f64";
}
return false;
}
only checks Float32/Float64 extensions. @gbaraldi is that correct?

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Actually, this may work on riscv64 with #57043, but I'm still not entirely sure about what's going on there.

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sure, at which point this is nfc for such architectures, but that can be fixed in a separate pr.

@@ -276,6 +276,9 @@ significantly more expensive than `x*y+z`. `fma` is used to improve accuracy in
algorithms. See [`muladd`](@ref).
"""
function fma end
function fma_emulated(a::Float16, b::Float16, c::Float16)
Float16(muladd(Float32(a), Float32(b), Float32(c))) #don't use fma if the hardware doesn't have it.
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I think this can be simplified to

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Float16(muladd(Float32(a), Float32(b), Float32(c))) #don't use fma if the hardware doesn't have it.
muladd(a, b, c) #don't use fma if the hardware doesn't have it.

LLVM would automatically do the demotion to float as necessary nowadays.

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Ironically, on aarch64 with fp16 extension muladd is better than fma on Float16 because it doesn't force the Float16 -> Float32 -> Float16 dance:

julia> code_native(muladd, NTuple{3,Float16}; debuginfo=:none)
        .text
        .file   "muladd"
        .globl  julia_muladd_1256               // -- Begin function julia_muladd_1256
        .p2align        4
        .type   julia_muladd_1256,@function
julia_muladd_1256:                      // @julia_muladd_1256
; Function Signature: muladd(Float16, Float16, Float16)
// %bb.0:                               // %top
        //DEBUG_VALUE: muladd:x <- $h0
        //DEBUG_VALUE: muladd:x <- $h0
        //DEBUG_VALUE: muladd:y <- $h1
        //DEBUG_VALUE: muladd:y <- $h1
        //DEBUG_VALUE: muladd:z <- $h2
        //DEBUG_VALUE: muladd:z <- $h2
        stp     x29, x30, [sp, #-16]!           // 16-byte Folded Spill
        mov     x29, sp
        fmadd   h0, h0, h1, h2
        ldp     x29, x30, [sp], #16             // 16-byte Folded Reload
        ret
.Lfunc_end0:
        .size   julia_muladd_1256, .Lfunc_end0-julia_muladd_1256
                                        // -- End function
        .type   ".L+Core.Float16#1258",@object  // @"+Core.Float16#1258"
        .section        .rodata,"a",@progbits
        .p2align        3, 0x0
".L+Core.Float16#1258":
        .xword  ".L+Core.Float16#1258.jit"
        .size   ".L+Core.Float16#1258", 8

.set ".L+Core.Float16#1258.jit", 281472349230944
        .size   ".L+Core.Float16#1258.jit", 8
        .section        ".note.GNU-stack","",@progbits
julia> code_native(fma, NTuple{3,Float16}; debuginfo=:none)
        .text
        .file   "fma"
        .globl  julia_fma_1259                  // -- Begin function julia_fma_1259
        .p2align        4
        .type   julia_fma_1259,@function
julia_fma_1259:                         // @julia_fma_1259
; Function Signature: fma(Float16, Float16, Float16)
// %bb.0:                               // %top
        //DEBUG_VALUE: fma:a <- $h0
        //DEBUG_VALUE: fma:a <- $h0
        //DEBUG_VALUE: fma:b <- $h1
        //DEBUG_VALUE: fma:b <- $h1
        //DEBUG_VALUE: fma:c <- $h2
        //DEBUG_VALUE: fma:c <- $h2
        stp     x29, x30, [sp, #-16]!           // 16-byte Folded Spill
        fcvt    s0, h0
        fcvt    s1, h1
        mov     x29, sp
        fcvt    s2, h2
        fmadd   s0, s0, s1, s2
        fcvt    h0, s0
        ldp     x29, x30, [sp], #16             // 16-byte Folded Reload
        ret
.Lfunc_end0:
        .size   julia_fma_1259, .Lfunc_end0-julia_fma_1259
                                        // -- End function
        .type   ".L+Core.Float16#1261",@object  // @"+Core.Float16#1261"
        .section        .rodata,"a",@progbits
        .p2align        3, 0x0
".L+Core.Float16#1261":
        .xword  ".L+Core.Float16#1261.jit"
        .size   ".L+Core.Float16#1261", 8

.set ".L+Core.Float16#1261.jit", 281472349230944
        .size   ".L+Core.Float16#1261.jit", 8
        .section        ".note.GNU-stack","",@progbits

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no. muladd doesn't guarantee the accuracy of fma requires

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I will also point out that pure f16 fma is not super useful as an operation. Most of the accelerators will do fp16 multiply with an f32 accumulator (and then potentially round back to f16 at the end).

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sure, but that's not what Base.fma does.

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That’s not really true of fp16, on aarch64 it’s a true type which supports everything (with twice the throughput on SIMD), bf16 is that though

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The runtime intrinsic will need updating to be modelling this correctly? It currently doesn't handle Float16 at all.

JL_DLLEXPORT jl_value_t *jl_have_fma(jl_value_t *typ)

JL_DLLEXPORT jl_value_t *jl_cpu_has_fma(int bits)

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@vchuravy can we leave that to a separate PR? this is a correct change even if our modeling is overly conservative.

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