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Confirm list of Class 14 Entries delegated to SMPTE #5

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palemieux opened this issue Jun 9, 2021 · 13 comments
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Confirm list of Class 14 Entries delegated to SMPTE #5

palemieux opened this issue Jun 9, 2021 · 13 comments
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palemieux commented Jun 9, 2021

See #3 (comment) and #2

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@raymondyyeungDBL @tbause Looking forward to your input.

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Based on a scan of the metadata registers by @dtatut , all class 14 entries delegated to SMPTE are from Dolby Laboratories. The following finding has been communicated to @tbause for further review.

[ELEMENTS]

Symbol UL
ImmersiveAudioVersion urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.01010105.0e090506.00000000
MaxChannelCount urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.01010105.0e090507.00000000
MaxObjectCount urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.01010105.0e090508.00000000
ImmersiveAudioID urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.01010105.0e090509.00000000
FirstFrame urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.01010105.0e09050a.00000000
Referencing document: ST 429-18:2019

[GROUPS]

Symbol UL
IADataEssenceDescriptor urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.027f0105.0e090603.00000000
IADataEssenceSubDescriptor urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.027f0105.0e090606.00000000
Referencing document: ST 429-18:2019

[LABELS]

Symbol UL
ST37742chLeftWide urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.04010000
ST37742chRightWide urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.04020000
ST37742chLeftTopFront urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.04030000
ST37742chRightTopFront urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.04040000
ST37742chTopSideLeft urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.04050000
ST37742chTopSideRight urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.04060000
ST37742chLeftTopBack urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.04070000
ST37742chRightTopBack urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.04080000
ST37742sg514 urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.05020000
ST37742sg714 urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.05040000
ST37742sg914 urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.05060000
ST37742sg916 urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090101.05070000

Referencing document: ST 377-42:202x

Symbol UL
ImmersiveAudioCoding urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090604.00000000
MXF_GC_IAData_Frame_Wrapped urn:smpte:ul:060e2b34.04010105.0e090605.00000000
Referencing document: ST 429-18:2019

The delegation letters are located in the following Teams Files/SharePoint folders.

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For clarity, after discussion with @raymondyyeungDBL: per #2 (comment) there are Dolby private ULs in RDD 47 and RDD 56 that might be released at some point -- but that will be handled separately (and delegation letters will need to be issued for these). So, we do not need to consider them here.

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BTW, I created #6 since I do not think that the delegated entries used in ST 377-42:202x should be added to AG 18 before they are published.

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Following review with @raymondyyeungDBL : The comment above references a letter from Dolby ([1]) in relation to ST 429-18 that lists two Essence Element Keys that are not included in the comment. The letter states that these two Essence Element Keys are also transferred to SMPTE. One of these does not appear in ST 429-18. The other one does but along with: "NOTE: The Immersive Audio Data Element key is not a valid SMPTE UL, is not listed in the SMPTE Metadata Registers, and does not conform to SMPTE ST 379."

These two Essence Element ULs should probably be included in the update to the AG 18 appendix.

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Following review with @raymondyyeungDBL : regarding:

there are Dolby private ULs in RDD 47 and RDD 56 that might be released at some point

Note that RDD 47 ULs will probably no longer be transferred to SMPTE (because it will likely be superseded by a new ST that uses new ULs).

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There is no plan to transfer RDD-47 ULs at this time.

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RDD-56 ULs have been submitted to 30MR-10 for review. Probably should not be added to AG-18 before they make it into the register.

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Why are they listed in AG-18 at all? Perhaps AG-18 Annex D and E should be replaced with a reference to smpte-ra.org and the tables moved to smpte-ra.org.

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Why are they listed in AG-18 at all? Perhaps AG-18 Annex D and E should be replaced with a reference to smpte-ra.org and the tables moved to smpte-ra.org.

Can you file this as a separate issue?

At the time AG-18 was written, it was felt that smpte-ra.org was not persistent enough of a resource to capture this essential information.

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Why are they listed in AG-18 at all? Perhaps AG-18 Annex D and E should be replaced with a reference to smpte-ra.org and the tables moved to smpte-ra.org.

Can you file this as a separate issue?

At the time AG-18 was written, it was felt that smpte-ra.org was not persistent enough of a resource to capture this essential information.

done

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@dcbullock wrote:

There is no plan to transfer RDD-47 ULs at this time.

The RDD-47 ULs are to be submitted for 35PM ST 2067-202 IMF ISXD Plug-in. Please see pre-FCD review package here

TC 35PM Teams Files folder -
Documents > General > Working Drafts >
35PM-WD-ST-2067-202-ISXD-2022-05-20(preFCD-review-package).zip

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@raymondyyeungDBL and @thomasheritage have just reviewed this issue and the other issues/comments etc it references.

This issue can now be closed because Class 14 entries from:

For all those marked as "handled later" an issue will be created in this repo once the associated Registers Submission has become "accepted"

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