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PEP 3119: Revert the link for 'Putting Metaclasses to Work' (Forman & Danforth) #3289

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@AA-Turner AA-Turner commented Aug 14, 2023


📚 Documentation preview 📚: https://pep-previews--3289.org.readthedocs.build/

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Maybe wait until the link actually stops working? Though I still don’t understand how one is supposed to find that link (other than a Google search, which could be seeded by this very PEP).

If we decide to remove this we should remove the other one in PEP 551.

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shailshouryya commented Aug 15, 2023

I didn't look through the archive.org link properly until after typing this out, at which point I realized I was talking about an entirely different scenario (archiving the link to the Amazon product page of the book, as opposed to the actual book) and what I typed out does not apply. However, I don't want to delete the entire thing, and maybe someone finds something useful out of it for some other purpose.

Also some context for others who might need to do some digging (the lawsuit is mentioned the linked issue #3259 above, but adding references):

therefore, the archive.org link will likely go away if the publishers have their way.

Also, here's a direct link to the relevant section of the preview: https://pep-previews--3289.org.readthedocs.build/pep-3119/#references



The original thing I typed (which is not relevant, see above):

(Adding here in case this is useful)

Since https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201433052 is just a link to buy the book, the link should hopefully stay unaffected by the lawsuit (I think?). However, if the entire organization goes down, then the link will probably disappear - at that point, though, the entire site will probably go down at that point, along with all the other links there.

It looks like there are some alternatives to archive.org, and I was going through https://www.searchenginejournal.com/wayback-machine-5-alternatives-to-try/477224/ to see what they're like, but I haven't really tried them yet.

Short summary based off some (very light) research:

There's also this list, but going through that will take even more time (but maybe we can get feedback if anyone has tried any of them before).

@hugovk hugovk changed the title Revert the link for 'Putting Metaclasses to Work' (Forman & Danforth) PEP 3119: Revert the link for 'Putting Metaclasses to Work' (Forman & Danforth) Aug 28, 2023
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hugovk commented Sep 20, 2023

Resolved conflict, and marking as draft until the link stops working.

@hugovk hugovk marked this pull request as draft September 20, 2023 19:04
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