2026–06–05

Minutes from meeting on June 5, 2026

Attendance (12): Bruce Bailey, Lori Oakley, Filippo Zorzi, Francis Storr, Adam Page, Giacomo Petri, Baldino Morelli, Patrick H. Lauke, Ken Franqueiro, Steve Faulkner, Scott O'Hara, Jonny James

Regrets: Gundula Niemann

Sent for WG approval

• Noting there have been a few comments so far on #5113 and #5133; will look in more detail next week

Drafted

• #5090: Add C40 (two-color focus) as sufficient for 1.4.11 Non-text contrast, make sufficient techniques for 1.4.11 situationally specific
  • Also clarifies context under which C40 and several other techniques are sufficient
  • Bruce suggested adding preceding sentence before procedure in G174, to be consistent with others
  • Giacomo: This doesn't quite close #2575; I commented in 2022 that it is still possible to fail if the inner/outer borders happen to coincide with control and page background colors, respectively.
  • Patrick: #5090 specifically tackles the part where it wasn't added
  • Giacomo: Concerned this will spread an existing mistake under 2.4.7 also to 1.4.11
  • Giacomo: Might be worth adding another note to clarify this situation
  • Patrick: Let's open that as a separate issue to keep this PR focused
  • Moved to Ready for approval
• #5065: Expand 1.4.5 Images of Text benefits
  • Benefits previously named who benefits but not how/why
  • Some discussion over suggested edits on first bullet point
  • Adam: This also makes the text machine-readable and thereby accessible to assistive technology; it can be wrapped in semantics. Seems weird that this was completely absent from benefits list
  • Patrick: Somewhat of a parallel one; might be good as an additional note in a separate PR
  • Bruce: Might also be worth a future note about cognitive benefits?
  • Moved to Ready for approval
• #4558: Total rewrite of example for SCR27
  • Probably needs more rigorous testing first, leaving for a future meeting
• #1159: Clarify whether SC 1.3.1 requires grouped links to be in a list structure
  • Moved to Ready for approval
• #5135: Add a non-normative explanation of "proper name" to 3.1.2 Language of Parts understanding
  • The normative attempt did not go over well (perhaps unsurprisingly)
  • There's already been some discussion on this PR as well
  • Lori: What counts as a "product"?
  • Further clarification by TF to correlate product to brand name
  • Moved to Ready for approval
• #5131: Add "also" to note about flashing content in 2.2.2 Pause, Stop, Hide understanding
  • Clarifies that this is "in addition to", not "instead of"
  • Also reorders 2.3.1 and 2.3.2 mentions to be in increasing numerical order (and A before AAA)
• #5130: Add "also" to Note 1 for 2.2.2 Pause, Stop, Hide
  • Akin to #5131 but for note within normative SC
  • Bruce: Adding "also" seems less necessary here
  • Adam: Possibly due to the significant difference in how this note is phrased compared to the informative one

Discussions

• Giacomo: Question RE 4.1.3 that might warrant an issue?
  • RE a multi-step process with a button being disabled upon submission, and displays a "Loading..." message, then becomes re-enabled and label reverts within 1 second
  • Patrick: 4.1.3 is for things that happen elsewhere on the page; this is fine on 4.1.3 as screen readers will announce it
  • Giacomo: NVDA does not announce the change of label; maybe this is an issue with NVDA
  • Giacomo: Given that the control is disabled... the normative wording mentions "receiving focus"
  • Adam: I've always interpreted "without receiving focus" as meaning "without needing to receive focus", i.e. the status message has to be deliverable without requiring the author to move focus to the thing
  • Patrick: As opposed to e.g. a toast
  • Giacomo: To me, announcing the disabled button seems more confusing than not announcing anything
  • Patrick: I suspect screen reader users may have gotten accustomed to hearing this pattern